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		<title>By: gfarck.tnoumi</title>
		<link>http://arabcomment.com/2008/the-next-great-war-with-the-burqa/comment-page-1/#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>gfarck.tnoumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats n i wish u n people like u All the best,for trying to reinterpret Islam and The Quran.It is the need of the hour to save islam and the world from the terrorists and fundamentalists who spread terror in the name of Islam and jihad and spoil the name of Islam.They believe in interpretetions that have no respect for human rights.These people are just overeacting to another extreme -the extremes of western society&#039;s consumerism and liberal thinking- which again is not the solution ,the way out is
moderation.Islam preaches universal brotherhood and tolerance of other
religions and beliefs ,when the Prophet fought a war not a single person was killed because of his different religion.These are the things that need to be highlighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats n i wish u n people like u All the best,for trying to reinterpret Islam and The Quran.It is the need of the hour to save islam and the world from the terrorists and fundamentalists who spread terror in the name of Islam and jihad and spoil the name of Islam.They believe in interpretetions that have no respect for human rights.These people are just overeacting to another extreme -the extremes of western society&#8217;s consumerism and liberal thinking- which again is not the solution ,the way out is<br />
moderation.Islam preaches universal brotherhood and tolerance of other<br />
religions and beliefs ,when the Prophet fought a war not a single person was killed because of his different religion.These are the things that need to be highlighted.</p>
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		<title>By: Florine Marzook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florine Marzook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot understand why ANYONE bothers to quote Taslima Nazrin. What is the justification for even recognizing her existence - she has no credibility other than that given her by anti-islamic elements. 
Sadly this is the state of our world today - the same platform is shared by intellects/people of learning &amp; exhibitionists like Taslima Nazrin. And we allow this to happen by giving these exhibitionists space in our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot understand why ANYONE bothers to quote Taslima Nazrin. What is the justification for even recognizing her existence &#8211; she has no credibility other than that given her by anti-islamic elements.<br />
Sadly this is the state of our world today &#8211; the same platform is shared by intellects/people of learning &amp; exhibitionists like Taslima Nazrin. And we allow this to happen by giving these exhibitionists space in our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: suha</title>
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		<dc:creator>suha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam does NOT, NOT prohibit celibacy. Please read.</description>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://arabcomment.com/2008/the-next-great-war-with-the-burqa/comment-page-1/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting about the writers is that they seem to totally ignore the fact that women may have a choice in covering themselves. I had a young woman here in the US, who covered everything but her eyes, say &quot;In my mind, this gives me power, because I choose who sees my body and who does not.&quot;

In other cases, covering could be seen as an outward sign of an inner commitment to a religious life, or as a comforting symbol of belonging to a cultural and religious tradition. Very religious people often see fit to choose an attire that broadcasts their belief to the world - why is it only in this case that it is seen as insidious and discriminatory?

I think it is assuming too much to decide that women have no voice in the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting about the writers is that they seem to totally ignore the fact that women may have a choice in covering themselves. I had a young woman here in the US, who covered everything but her eyes, say &#8220;In my mind, this gives me power, because I choose who sees my body and who does not.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other cases, covering could be seen as an outward sign of an inner commitment to a religious life, or as a comforting symbol of belonging to a cultural and religious tradition. Very religious people often see fit to choose an attire that broadcasts their belief to the world &#8211; why is it only in this case that it is seen as insidious and discriminatory?</p>
<p>I think it is assuming too much to decide that women have no voice in the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://arabcomment.com/2008/the-next-great-war-with-the-burqa/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sarmma you write something interesting in relation to the Islamic hijab debate, something i see often repeated by different Muslims.

You state:  
&quot;Any one ever asked the christians why their nuns and sisters in priesthood are having their heads covered ever since the christianity exists,&quot;

No Muslim ever asked, because what nuns wear differs widely depending on what branch of Christianity they follow and what particular convent they belong too.
Unlike in Islam in Christianity there is no mandated form of dress for men or woman.
When Muslims would encounter nuns they would not debate over what type of dress they wore, but rather why they practiced celibacy a concept which Islam forbids.
Muslims would also refer to them not as nuns but as maidens or virgins.
Who then would be divided among the Muslim soldiers who would capture such an convent.
A Muslim traveler to the city of Constantinople describes the &quot;nuns&quot; he saw there as all having braided hair with white flowing gowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sarmma you write something interesting in relation to the Islamic hijab debate, something i see often repeated by different Muslims.</p>
<p>You state:<br />
&#8220;Any one ever asked the christians why their nuns and sisters in priesthood are having their heads covered ever since the christianity exists,&#8221;</p>
<p>No Muslim ever asked, because what nuns wear differs widely depending on what branch of Christianity they follow and what particular convent they belong too.<br />
Unlike in Islam in Christianity there is no mandated form of dress for men or woman.<br />
When Muslims would encounter nuns they would not debate over what type of dress they wore, but rather why they practiced celibacy a concept which Islam forbids.<br />
Muslims would also refer to them not as nuns but as maidens or virgins.<br />
Who then would be divided among the Muslim soldiers who would capture such an convent.<br />
A Muslim traveler to the city of Constantinople describes the &#8220;nuns&#8221; he saw there as all having braided hair with white flowing gowns.</p>
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		<title>By: jollyroger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jollyroger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Damn&quot;

Well I do get worked up about it...I mean, it can&#039;t be an accident that they picked the dick to cut on for their little ceremonial initiation thingee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Damn&#8221;</p>
<p>Well I do get worked up about it&#8230;I mean, it can&#8217;t be an accident that they picked the dick to cut on for their little ceremonial initiation thingee.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Antonova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalia Antonova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn... What more can I say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn&#8230; What more can I say?</p>
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		<title>By: jollyroger</title>
		<link>http://arabcomment.com/2008/the-next-great-war-with-the-burqa/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>jollyroger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ought not leave the topic of genital mutilation without reference the often ignored topic of MALE genital mutilation (and, yes, Suroor, I AM mutilated, and if I ever get my hands on the sonofabitch moil who did me he will need more than a few drops of wine to straighten his hand).

The idea that a seven day old infant should find himself surrounded (and held down by) the very individuals he is just learning to love and trust, and then they are going to cut him WHERE??

If it were his earlobe, the tip of his pinky, the end of his nose, it would be clear child abuse.

But it&#039;s ok if it&#039;s just his foreskin?  By God, he will learn that pain proceeds from sex, even if (as it does in the inevitable (if rare) &quot;accidental overcut&quot; he is left permanent sexual incapacity, or disease (how about a few cases of herpes from the  truly bizarre Hasidic tradition involving the oral-genital &quot;cleansing&quot; of the bloodly stump...)

It&#039;s bad enough to mutilate an infant, sans anaesthetic, but to make a PARTY out of the event?

Give me a break...

Like I said, the Yahwist cults fear and loathe sexuality.

Not a pretty picture, nor one deserving of respect or emulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ought not leave the topic of genital mutilation without reference the often ignored topic of MALE genital mutilation (and, yes, Suroor, I AM mutilated, and if I ever get my hands on the sonofabitch moil who did me he will need more than a few drops of wine to straighten his hand).</p>
<p>The idea that a seven day old infant should find himself surrounded (and held down by) the very individuals he is just learning to love and trust, and then they are going to cut him WHERE??</p>
<p>If it were his earlobe, the tip of his pinky, the end of his nose, it would be clear child abuse.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s ok if it&#8217;s just his foreskin?  By God, he will learn that pain proceeds from sex, even if (as it does in the inevitable (if rare) &#8220;accidental overcut&#8221; he is left permanent sexual incapacity, or disease (how about a few cases of herpes from the  truly bizarre Hasidic tradition involving the oral-genital &#8220;cleansing&#8221; of the bloodly stump&#8230;)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough to mutilate an infant, sans anaesthetic, but to make a PARTY out of the event?</p>
<p>Give me a break&#8230;</p>
<p>Like I said, the Yahwist cults fear and loathe sexuality.</p>
<p>Not a pretty picture, nor one deserving of respect or emulation.</p>
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		<title>By: jollyroger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jollyroger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it important not to conflate Shiver (who from a cursory glance at her website is a certified forced pregnancy, crusading (and I use the term advisedly, in all its historical and non-historical senses) nut) with Nasrin.

More to the point, would you not agree that all of the Yahwist Cults share a sex negative vision?  And, further, that the veiling of women is, however extreme or merely symbolic, a manifestation of that sex negativity. (I believe FGM speaks for itself on this point...

Other examples:

Eg, the obsession with the covering of hair, both in women AND men, in all three of the branches of the Abrahamic faiths (from the yarmulke to the wimple to the shawl to the Pope&#039;s skullcap)


Eg, the pathological *modesty displayed by both sexes in Islamic culture, mirrored among the Hasidim (shall we discuss copulation through a sheet?) and only perhaps slightly less neurotic among New Testament Yahwists.

*whence Abu Ghraib use of forced nudity as a pillar of psychological torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it important not to conflate Shiver (who from a cursory glance at her website is a certified forced pregnancy, crusading (and I use the term advisedly, in all its historical and non-historical senses) nut) with Nasrin.</p>
<p>More to the point, would you not agree that all of the Yahwist Cults share a sex negative vision?  And, further, that the veiling of women is, however extreme or merely symbolic, a manifestation of that sex negativity. (I believe FGM speaks for itself on this point&#8230;</p>
<p>Other examples:</p>
<p>Eg, the obsession with the covering of hair, both in women AND men, in all three of the branches of the Abrahamic faiths (from the yarmulke to the wimple to the shawl to the Pope&#8217;s skullcap)</p>
<p>Eg, the pathological *modesty displayed by both sexes in Islamic culture, mirrored among the Hasidim (shall we discuss copulation through a sheet?) and only perhaps slightly less neurotic among New Testament Yahwists.</p>
<p>*whence Abu Ghraib use of forced nudity as a pillar of psychological torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarmma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarmma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a very liberal and open minded man, muslim, and it pisses me off to see that hijab is taking the west and ill minded people such big efforts to fight a simple habit that muslim ladies in recent days, except in certain areas, where it is still strict social habit, can do without it and it is more or less a personal choice of the woamn using it.

Any one ever asked the christians why their nuns and sisters in priesthood are having their heads covered ever since the christianity exists, and no one muslim ever objected nor ever discussed that, muslims proved to be wider in thinking about leaving the nons out of their discussions and even comments, but those ladies specially, claimed as liberated muslim freedom fighters are taking things too much and making big fuss for something that does not hurt any one, as who cares who covers or uncovers some ones head, it is his or her problem to care fore and not for some one to comment and fight and make a social issue out of it for really no reason, 

Leave things and the world will be much more simpler and more at ease</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a very liberal and open minded man, muslim, and it pisses me off to see that hijab is taking the west and ill minded people such big efforts to fight a simple habit that muslim ladies in recent days, except in certain areas, where it is still strict social habit, can do without it and it is more or less a personal choice of the woamn using it.</p>
<p>Any one ever asked the christians why their nuns and sisters in priesthood are having their heads covered ever since the christianity exists, and no one muslim ever objected nor ever discussed that, muslims proved to be wider in thinking about leaving the nons out of their discussions and even comments, but those ladies specially, claimed as liberated muslim freedom fighters are taking things too much and making big fuss for something that does not hurt any one, as who cares who covers or uncovers some ones head, it is his or her problem to care fore and not for some one to comment and fight and make a social issue out of it for really no reason, </p>
<p>Leave things and the world will be much more simpler and more at ease</p>
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